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1 ：転載者 ★ ：05/01/11 02:36 ID:KFgqBSP2: Bardの全般の話題など
個別の話題は別途スレを立ててそこで歌ってください
2 ：転載者 ★ ：05/01/11 02:36 ID:KFgqBSP2: 【βスレ16】

595 ：名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。：04/11/04 10:09:20 ID:uI69sRDh
俺もEQ1＞FF＞EQ2組なわけだが。
略語の類は郷に入っては郷に従え、ってことで。

んでBardはどうですか？
戦闘中にRegene歌不可とかはちょっとがっかり。
Juggleで忙しくなるとHOとか潰してしまうこと多そうだけど、
逆に言うとうまくやればHOに絡みやすいのかな？
EQ1の頃のBard（PoPまでの感想）って、SnareUserがいなきゃ
Snare、SlowUserいなきゃSlow、GGUserいなきゃ屋外なら早足で
逃がす、MeleePower高ければHaste（OverHaste）重視してDPS
上げて、MAGのnuke重視する感じならDoT+FireResi下げ、Healer
の負担が大きいようならRegene2曲回してMemberに多少ダメージ
分散するように頼む、みたいに何でも2～3番手だけど、足りない
能力を補えて、全体の能力を底上げできるとこが好きだったんだけど
EQ2ではどうなんだろうか？と。
ベータでBardやった方、Bardと組んだ方、感想教えてください。
3 ：転載者 ★ ：05/01/11 02:37 ID:KFgqBSP2: 598 ：名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。：04/11/04 10:53:41 ID:cUCnXBmw
50レベルのレンジャーと20レベルのガーディアンが防御力同じじゃないかという話が出てるけど、
勿論そんなわけはない。
着れる鎧の制限は勿論あるが、スキルが全然違うので20レベルのガーディアンの硬さだと
如何に鎧とクラス特性のアドバンテージが合ったとしても、30レベルのRangerには確実にトー
タルな硬さで負けるはず。

>>595

EQ2のバードはジャグリングなんて概念がそもそも無い。Buffソングは確かにあるが、それは
普通にBuff扱いで、効果時間も長い。EQ1を想像してEQ2のバードをプレイすると多分
全く別のクラスをやってる気分だと思う。
4 ：転載者 ★ ：05/01/11 02:38 ID:KFgqBSP2: 611 ：名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。：04/11/04 12:29:52 ID:uI69sRDh
>>598
thanks
Buff系songが1分くらいもつのはデータ系サイト見ててわかったけど
やはり別物なのかぁ・・・。
ま、それはそれで頑張ってみます。
5 ：転載者 ★ ：05/01/11 02:39 ID:KFgqBSP2: 615 ：名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。：04/11/04 12:56:08 ID:EzMpdAZa
戦闘中regene　song使えないっていわゆるマナソングも駄目なの？
なんか戦闘中power回復しないらしいから、コレ使ってウハウハだぜー！と思ってたんだがorz
6 ：転載者 ★ ：05/01/11 02:40 ID:KFgqBSP2: 630 ：名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。：04/11/04 13:56:03 ID:uI69sRDh
>>615
今のところリストにマナソングに相当するものは無いようなのだが
どこかで既出？

631 ：名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。：04/11/04 14:01:10 ID:NcdH9y0K
>>628
それは昔過ぎだろ。ｗ
＞グラフィックのオプションを最低にしても解決しなかったから鯖側の問題かとは思ってたけど。
この一文見て、「わかってないんじゃ」と思ってレスしたが、そうじゃないな。
確かにＢＢやダンジョン等のGroup戦闘が多い場所は多少Lagってたし、
HOの開始が表示されるまえに１巡ぐらい戦闘が進んでたりしたが

＞いやRealTimeではやっとるとは思わないけどいくらなんでも全員の戦闘のLogを
＞取る作業だけでも鯖に結構な負担にならないかな？
鯖のログ取りってEQ1の頃からかなり細かくとってたみたいだし
ログ取りはそれほど負担にならないと思うよ

mana song じゃなくて power song ならあるぞ。
あと oom → oop だからまちがうなよ。

632 ：名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。：04/11/04 14:05:07 ID:uI69sRDh
>>631
おお～ありますか＞power song
戦闘中の使用は可能ですか？
7 ：転載者 ★ ：05/01/11 02:40 ID:KFgqBSP2: 636 ：名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。：04/11/04 14:24:33 ID:PtgDOKjr
>>632

Bard

13 Bria's Stirring Ballad
味方・全体　グループリジェネ(Power) 演奏中、グループのPower回復速度を上げる。 3秒(1秒ごと) 速ソング・Conc(1)

Troubadourのみ

44 Quiron's Estatic Celebration
30 Quiron's Joyous Celebration
味方・全体　グループリジェネ演奏中、グループのHealth回復速度が上がる。 3秒(1秒ごと) 速ソング

戦闘中に使えるかどうかは知らない、てっきり使えると思ってたよorz

637 ：名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。：04/11/04 14:29:24 ID:PtgDOKjr
ぐは途中で送信押してしまった・・・

Bard （Drige、Troubadour）

13 Bria's Stirring Ballad
41 Bria's Exhalting Ballad

味方・全体　グループリジェネ(Power) 演奏中、グループのPower回復速度を上げる。 3秒(1秒ごと) 速ソング・Conc(1)

Troubadourのみ

44 Quiron's Estatic Celebration
30 Quiron's Joyous Celebration
味方・全体　グループリジェネ演奏中、グループのHealth回復速度が上がる。 3秒(1秒ごと) 速ソング・Conc（２）
8 ：転載者 ★ ：05/01/11 02:41 ID:KFgqBSP2: 644 ：名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。：04/11/04 14:56:39 ID:NcdH9y0K
>>632
＞戦闘中の使用は可能ですか？
可能、Buff扱いだし戦闘中にかけ直すこともできる。
ただなんというか、戦闘が元々短期決戦型なので消費量に追いつくはずがないわけで、
ｳﾊｳﾊってほどじゃないと思う
それでもHealerやCasterには実感できるらしくて、
「PowerSongよろ」ってよくいわれるんでGrp組むと歌いっぱなしだけどね。
Buffといっても持続時間が短いんで、これだけはいつも切らさないように気をつけてる。

飲み食いしつつPowerSong歌いっぱなしだと、短時間Sow使いっぱなしでもPower切れしなかったな。
さすがにパッチで変わってるとおもうけど。
9 ：転載者 ★ ：05/01/11 02:41 ID:KFgqBSP2: 648 ：名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。：04/11/04 15:06:07 ID:2w0Hq8uQ
>>644

Conc必要なSongでも掛け直しが必要なの？

654 ：名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。：04/11/04 15:37:29 ID:NcdH9y0K
>>648
必要、他のクラスのBuffに比べてBardのBuffSongは持続時間が短い
PowerSongは2minだったはず
だからBardとGrp組んでると非戦闘中とか移動中に音楽がちょこちょこ聞こえる
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