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1 :転載者 ★ :05/01/10 18:30 ID:O7m1Jsus
グループメイクの話題。

2 :転載者 ★ :05/01/10 18:31 ID:O7m1Jsus
【βスレ9】
598 :名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :04/09/04 18:20 ID:WRvrZKt3
つかぬことお聞きしますが、
FF11では、PT組むのに3時間とか一週間ほどかかったんですが。
このゲームでは、PT組めるのか?

そこんとこが心配;;

599 :名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :04/09/04 18:37 ID:91pHzsfZ
PT組みたいなら他所へ行ってください;;

3 :転載者 ★ :05/01/10 18:31 ID:O7m1Jsus
603 :名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :04/09/04 20:05 ID:7/z9ZyLW
>>598
PTって「パーティー」をもじった言葉だろ
そんな言葉が通用するのはFF11だけだ
それを一般通用すると勘違いしてお前のようにそのままで来る香具師が多いから
FF厨は来るな来るなといわれるんだよ
悪いけど他のゲーム行ってくれ

つーか英語出来ないだろ

604 :名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :04/09/04 20:05 ID:BkjU/hOR
>>598
グループを組むのは簡単だと思われる
EQ1の拡張パックLoYではその辺が楽になっているが、
今回は最初から全体チャットが使えるから、
LFG(Looking for Group グループ探してます)の為のチャットに繋げば、
「レベル30平均の4人グループです、ヒーラー探してます」
「レベル20の戦士です、誰か誘ってください」みたいな会話が流れているかと

(全体チャットというよりは、「チャットルーム」のような物だと考えた方がいいかも)

>>600
問題なし

4 :転載者 ★ :05/01/10 18:31 ID:O7m1Jsus
605 :名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :04/09/04 20:08 ID:z/WDPamc
組もうとすれば組めるがグループ構成に厳密にこだわると1時間待ちとかもままある。
ただ、消極的すぎると何時間待つかは全く分からない。
俺はLFGだけだして後は何もしないで誘われ待ちとかは本当に組みたいと思ってるのだろうかと思ってる。

606 :名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :04/09/04 20:12 ID:BkjU/hOR
>>605の言うことももっともだが、
例えば「積極的に外に出たい訳じゃなくて、暇なら生産をしたりする」
って奴もいることを忘れない方がいいな
本気で外に出るときは、それなりにLFGするんじゃないの?

それはそうと、Dissectorが頑張ったな

5 :転載者 ★ :05/01/10 18:34 ID:O7m1Jsus
679 :名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :04/09/05 22:47 ID:mpGMUpMt
つかまぁ あれだ
FFはどうかしらないがEQは以外にコミニュティーが確立してたし
Guildといった組織、またな他のGameを通してのなれあい
もあるから、Group組むのは知り合いと組む事が多いね
また、国外の方と組むときも良くあるが、それも知り合いの
ような感じで組むことが多い。

知り合いになるには、人間付き合いとしても大事なことだが
協調性だ。
多少下手でも、協調性があったり一緒にPlayして楽しいやつは
断れることないし、
FriendListに入れてもらえるかいなかは

Playerしだいだ。

愉快犯、模倣犯、真性かどうかはしらないが
クダラナイ書き込みをしてる連中が そのままのPLAYを
すれば 自ずと結果はしれてるな!

6 :転載者 ★ :05/01/10 22:33 ID:O7m1Jsus
【βスレ12】

787 :名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :04/10/11 15:48:50 ID:p2n8R8gd
時間あまりとれない、一日2時間以内でも楽しめる?
FFとかgp組むまでが時間かかったから結構気になるとこ

809 :名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :04/10/11 20:23:35 ID:CqD9mzl7
>>787
心配ないんじゃないかなぁ?
FFだと町でメンツ募集してから逝く事が多い傾向にあったきがするんだけんども
Bだと現地の入り口付近で面募するかんじ、構成を考えつつ適当にLFGなLVLの
つりあうのを入れてるね、それぞれのPLAYの仕方に依存するのでなんともいえないところ
ではあるが。
ちょいとだけ やりたいなぁ せめて1時間でも、というときなどはSOLOったりCRAFTしたりと
色々やることはあるとおもうよ。

まぁ外人は気分しだいでボンボン帰る!”ちと用事できた!んじゃ!”みたいの多いので
その場でInviteしてるね
なんか、Bの連中わりと社会人が多そうなきが・・明日仕事だからとか・・・


7 :転載者 ★ :05/01/10 22:33 ID:O7m1Jsus
815 :名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :04/10/11 20:51:00 ID:S59qZWBo
>>787
英語版(英鯖)だと英語圏のMMORPG文化だから>>809みたいな感じだけど
日本語版(日本鯖)だと、FF文化に汚染されるのは確実な気がするな。

FF文化すわなち
・特定のクラスが揃うまで永遠とシャウト、PTに飽きがあってもイラナイクラスだと無視
・キャンプは既にその場所で狩っている者も、後から来た者も公平
・レアアイテムは全てのクラスでAll Random

俺はEQ(Lv60だけど)もFF(Lv65)も当時のレベルキャップまであげたけど、
EQ文化の方が好きだから、最初は英語版でプレイする。

洋物MMORPGが好きだった人なら英語版、FFや韓国産が好きなら日本語版で
住み分けするのが正解かと

8 :転載者 ★ :05/01/10 22:33 ID:O7m1Jsus
819 :名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :04/10/11 21:05:24 ID:5KlnvmoK
>>815
FF文化人みたいなのは嫌いなんで、次回からはまず組まないと思うんだけどさ
そういう連中って無視したり断ったりすると晒し上げくらうってやつ?
どういう風に付き合うのが良いのかな?

821 :名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :04/10/11 21:11:33 ID:2tpFAdC6
>>815
FFが町でメンボしてたのはシステムが特殊だっただけでしょ
LFGしながらソロで狩して待つのも不可能だし
シグネットの関係で定期的に町に帰らなくちゃいけなかった訳だしね

9 :転載者 ★ :05/01/10 22:34 ID:O7m1Jsus
826 :名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :04/10/11 21:21:21 ID:iO7Awtvd
>>815
EQ(70)とFF(75)やってるが、FFのジュノ偏重型は最悪だな
PT組むにもまずイラナイジョブってのがあって、勧誘玉出してても
いないのと一緒、さらに狩場によって連携なんかでも制限されるうえに
EXPうまいLV帯が上下あわして2LVくらいなんで、全然PT組めない
&PT組むのも主要ジョブの取り合い
んで、うまい狩場は各LV帯で2−3箇所しかないのに
百人とか集まっちゃうから狩場の敵は枯れて取り合いに...

やっぱEQみたいに固定popにしてCamp制ってのがいいね
狩場でLFGの文化もいい。LV低いやつのがEXPいいってのもイケてる
こういった文化はEQ2でも引き継いでほしいな...

OoWのWoSのNamedは取り合いだが....

10 :転載者 ★ :05/01/10 22:34 ID:O7m1Jsus
829 :名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :04/10/11 21:32:38 ID:ugTywkN9
>>815
オイオイ後ろ二つはさすがになかったぞ
キャンプって明確な概念はなかったが暗黙の了解みたいのはあったし
野良のレベルあげでレアアイテムを落とす敵と戦うことなんてなかったしな


830 :名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 :04/10/11 21:34:06 ID:GXzebRDE
>>826
FFは大体人口の4分の1以上がジュノにいる感じかな。
いらないクラスが多いというのは、EQのDRU・SHM・ENC辺りをダメージクラスにしちゃって、
その上SoL時代のCLRしかCH使えないというトンデモバランスを想像してもらえば近いかな。

でもOoWのWoSって取り合いなのか…。
いつも100人以上いるとかいう話だし、開発はアホじゃないか。
PoPの65Spell辺りで人口集中の問題に気づいてもよさそうなものなのにw

>>824
マジでノームたんは声がロリですか。
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