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1 ：転載者 ★ ：05/01/10 18:36 ID:wpanAJpU
mobのAIに関する話題全般。

2 ：転載者 ★ ：05/01/10 18:37 ID:wpanAJpU
【βスレ9】
751 ：名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。 ：04/09/07 01:56 ID:rG1woWV9
CCB並くらいのダンジョンとかの感想やダンジョン内のAIの感想キボンヌ

752 ：名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。 ：04/09/07 02:01 ID:0jQEvH7q
・taunt一辺倒でない
・頭のいいmobは後衛を狙ってきたりする
・mobの言語がわかれば「後衛を狙う」というmobの発言を聞ける
・mobもPCも、完全な判定ではないが当たり判定は球体として持っている

どう後衛に跳ねるのを抑えるか、跳ねたらどう剥がすか、
CCし難いならSTも活躍するのか、確かにAI気になるよなあ

3 ：転載者 ★ ：05/01/10 18:37 ID:wpanAJpU
755 ：名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。 ：04/09/07 02:32 ID:0jQEvH7q
当たり判定が大きいならZoC(Zone of Control)効いたりのか、
狭いところならまさに「壁」となってtankingできるのか、
でもやっぱり飛び道具や攻撃魔法はそれじゃ防げないだろうし、
そんなに当たり判定が大きくなくて結局ばんばん跳ねるのか

Heal workがどうなるのか(CHがない代わりに蘇生が多いし、
Movie観ると蘇生後のDown timeが短いみたいだし、

Conbat wheelはどんな種類があるのか

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4 ：転載者 ★ ：05/01/10 18:59 ID:wpanAJpU
【βスレ10】
562 ：名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。 ：04/09/17 07:12:02 ID:TSjCc3Bw
レベル11になったけどこれいつになったら戦闘に深み出るんだ？
なんかFFをやってるみたいな感覚だよ
569 ：名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。 ：04/09/17 09:49:53 ID:u9LSWFCA
よくLvがうんぬんの書き込み見かけるが
まだHighLvのZONEはできてないぞ？

今回と前回のパッチで大量にMiddleLv以降の追加が入ったが。
その辺のバランス調整もEuroβのテスターがもっとLv上がってからになりそう。

あと、戦闘については基本システムにもメスが入ってたりするから、まだ改善の余地はあるっぽ。
まあ改悪される可能性もあるわけだが・・・

>>562
戦闘がザルに感じるのは敵味方のHPが低いのも一因かもな。
進化したAIとやらを見る前に戦闘が終わっちまうし。
それにSpellの数が少なくて行動に多様性を出し難いというのもある。
気になったところはどんどんFeedbackしていくしかないな。

5 ：転載者 ★ ：05/01/10 19:00 ID:wpanAJpU
570 ：名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。 ：04/09/17 10:07:23 ID:yck16A6w
>566
いやいや、SGやSandmanにいつも注意して逃げるとか、
鰐を彼方から引っ張ってくるとか、ボス鰐には手を出さないとか、
色々とLV50超えても使える重要な事を学んだぞ。

多分EQIIももっと理不尽に死に易くなれば面白くなるよｗ
普通の狩場に居る即死級のmobとか、即死級mobを素手で
殺す能力を持つ敵対factionの店員とか。

でも、カジュアル向けの飴もいるし、EQIIで理不尽になるのは
LV30超えて位からでいいんじゃないかな？とか思ったり。

6 ：転載者 ★ ：05/01/10 19:18 ID:wpanAJpU
966 ：名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。 ：04/09/22 20:17:06 ID:rTiax+B8
具体的な情報出てきたので私も感想など、、
コンボは悪くない。
でも、FFの連携の方がチームワークって感じでいい。
EQ2のコンボはちと、展開速すぎてグループで連携ってよりも
個人技で決める感じ。今後、もっと良くなるのかもだけど。

あと、EQ1の戦闘の象徴でもある逃げるMOBだけど
EQ2はまだ実装されてない？逃げるモブみたことね。
どっちにしろ、私は今後はEQ2をやり続けると思う。いじょ

7 ：転載者 ★ ：05/01/10 23:37 ID:wpanAJpU
【βスレ13】

521 ：名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。 ：04/10/17 18:47:07 ID:pZ5mTsUD
AIとか普通にｳﾝｺー！
PathingがEQと同レベルで笑うよ。Mobがプレイヤーを目指して
まっすぐ走ってこないんだよね。技術力ないぽ(致命的）。

戦闘はMobのHP UPとキャラの攻撃力ダウンで余計つまらなく
なった風味。正直ベータプレイヤーはどんどん減ってると思われ。

8 ：転載者 ★ ：05/01/10 23:37 ID:wpanAJpU
525 ：名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。 ：04/10/17 18:53:23 ID:IKFxG7z7
あれ。MobのPathは変に感じなかったけどな。
EQ1だとHealTauntとかで来るときに
最初にあさっての方向に走ってから向かってくるってのがあったけど
EQ2では感じない。そのまままっすぐ来るよ。

529 ：名無しさん＠お腹いっぱい。 ：04/10/17 19:16:24 ID:MC/zg9NP
MobのPathはそんな悪い気はしないぞ、521どこで戦闘してる？

GnollやGobは良くしゃべる、
吹き出し付きでごにょごにょいうのはRaidとかに限定されてるのかな、
初心者島のオークロードRaidで吹き出し付きでしゃべってたのはみたが、
普段の戦闘でボイスは聞こえるが吹き出しは見えない。
HealerやBuffer、LvlTauntもあるね、
エンチャンターがいなかったり、サブヒーラーがいないときは、
メインタンク・サブタンクがしっかり周りのHateKeep出来ないと死にまくってグダグダになる。

インスタンスゾーンで死ぬと前は中にShade残されたが、
確か修正でインスタンスゾーン入り口に移動するようになったんじゃないっけ？

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